Carl Manaster
Posts: 24
Nickname: cmanaster
Registered: Jun, 2003
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Re: Lakoff's Political Analysis Applies
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Posted: May 17, 2006 6:42 PM
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Hi, Uncle Bob,
> Ah, I see, like FDR. > Ah, I see, like Reagan.
Ummmm, no. :-)
> Oh, yes, this is one of my hot buttons. You may, or may > not know of my history of debates on comp.lang.c++ and > comp.object. Those debates were often against someone who > continuously suggested that my views about C++ were right > wing regressive reactionary dead-hand-of-the-past cowboy > hacker stuff, whereas his ideas were progressive, > enlivening, powerful, beautiful, welcoming, encouraging, > etc. He was for waterfall.
Nope; never saw them.
OK, then. Quoting an obscure document I found somewhere on the internets:
> Individuals and interactions over process and tools. Nurturant Parent, or Strict Father?
>Working software over comprehensive documentation Nurturant Parent, or Strict Father?
> Customer collaboration over contract negotiation Nurturant Parent, or Strict Father?
> Responding to change over following a plan Nurturant Parent, or Strict Father?
Notice I'm not asking, "conservative or liberal?" I think the conservative/liberal metaphor might have some merit, but it's not the one I'm exploring, and Lakoff's metaphor is effective (for politics) probably in part because the family model is more fundamental.
Certainly discipline is a part of Agile; certainly, too, there are aspects of nurturing. Which are prevalent, when looked at in comparison to "waterfall" as we are here using the term? For me, it's a very easy answer, and I think - though I have been careful not to state it thus far in this conversation - that you know what my answer is. That is evidence, to me, that the metaphor is effective and may have some explanatory value.
Thanks for a stimulating discussion.
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