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Bill Venners

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Registered: Jan, 2002

Introducing Artima Weblogs (View in Weblogs)
Posted: Mar 22, 2003 3:05 AM
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Summary
This week I added weblogs to Artima.com. Find out what Artima Weblogs have to offer.
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This week I added weblogs to Artima.com. I was in part inspired by oreillynet.com, which has about 80 webloggers, mostly O'Reilly authors. I plan to build a community of elite webloggers on Artima.com who post on software-related issues of interest to Artima.com readers. Although anyone will be able to read Artima Weblogs posts, to actually be a weblogger at Artima.com you have to be invited. To start with we have five webloggers. More webloggers will be added in the coming weeks and months.

A Quick Tour of Artima Weblogs

1. Summaries of the posts of all webloggers appear in the main Artima Weblogs page:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs

2. All posts also appear in the main Artima Weblogs RSS feed:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/feeds/weblogs.rss

3. Each individual weblogger gets a page showing the summaries for all of their posts, as in:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/index.jsp?blogger=32

4. Each individual weblogger gets their very own RSS feed, as in:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/feeds/bloggers/bv.rss

5. Weblog posts themselves look a lot like Artima.com articles, complete with a title, by line, publication date, and About the Blogger. For example, this page:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=4128

6. Each weblog post is accompanied by a discussion forum topic in the Weblogs Forums, so readers can respond to and discuss the posts. For example:

http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=106&thread=4128&reply=true


Johannes de Jong

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Registered: Jan, 2003

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Mar 26, 2003 2:38 AM
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Fantastic idea Bill.

Thor Henning Hetland (Totto)

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Registered: Mar, 2003

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Mar 26, 2003 4:29 PM
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A very promissing start.

I'm excited to see how the quality of the invited bloggers will evolve ;) The combination of articles/blogs and discussions is actually work in progress at the Norwegian JUG's website (http://www.java.no), but unfortunately for you it is Norwegian language only ;)

Furtunately for us, we can draw from the Artima Weblogs experience ;)

Bill Venners

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Registered: Jan, 2002

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Mar 28, 2003 3:15 AM
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Hey, you just uncovered yet another bug in the forums. If you surround your URL with parens, the filter that converts it to a link includes the close paren in the link. I'll add that to my do list.

I like the site you point to. This piece of news was especially interesting:

http://www2.java.no/web/show.do?implId=24;2&appmode=/showReply&articleid=649

Moshe Sambol

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Nickname: moshes
Registered: Apr, 2003

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Apr 8, 2003 5:12 AM
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Bill -

For those of your readers who subscribe to the joint RSS feed, it would be very nice if the RSS text would indicate the author of each article. Ideally this would be in the subject of each message, but at the very least in the body.

Good luck with this project!

Bill Venners

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Registered: Jan, 2002

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Apr 10, 2003 5:34 AM
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> Bill -
>
> For those of your readers who subscribe to the joint RSS
> feed, it would be very nice if the RSS text would indicate
> the author of each article. Ideally this would be in the
> subject of each message, but at the very least in the
> body.
>
Great suggestion. Thanks. I'll work in the author's name somehow. In some RSS feed formats, they have an author tag. But I'll probably end up prepending the summary with it, something like:

Berco Beute writes:

Charles Bell

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Registered: Feb, 2002

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Apr 28, 2003 5:05 PM
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Hey Bill,

RSS is coming out from under the rug and you have been way out in front.

Articles on RSS are appearing all over.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/04/25/17winman_1.html

Even MS started some rss links without twisting it.

Charles Bell

Matt Quail

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Nickname: spuddy
Registered: Jan, 2003

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Jun 5, 2003 12:34 AM
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Bill,

I added the rss feed from my java blog to the "java buzz" section, and it is pulling in all of my blog entries (even from months ago).

This maybe what you wanted, or maybe you want to do some filtering based on the dates in the rss feeds, or maybe I shouldn't be putting all my entries in the rss feed...

Bill Day

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Registered: Jan, 2004

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Jan 30, 2004 3:19 PM
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I'm curious to know what your thoughts are about blog
support on artima.com now that you're approaching the
end of the first year. How much of the software have
you rolled yourself, versus using "off the shelf"
(b2, wordpress, whatever)? What would you have done
differently if you knew in March 2003 what you know
now?

And yes, I do have a selfish interest :-)...in addition to my
java.net blog which is in the artima "Wireless Buzz" feed, I'm planning to re-work my own site sometime soon and
want to strike a reasonable balance between off the shelf
and roll your own blog sw when I do.

Bill Venners

Posts: 2251
Nickname: bv
Registered: Jan, 2002

Re: Introducing Artima Weblogs Posted: Jan 30, 2004 3:55 PM
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> I'm curious to know what your thoughts are about blog
> support on artima.com now that you're approaching the
> end of the first year. How much of the software have
> you rolled yourself, versus using "off the shelf"
> (b2, wordpress, whatever)? What would you have done
> differently if you knew in March 2003 what you know
> now?
>
I wrote the whole blog feature myself, but I use Jive for this forum that the blogs are integrated with. I was very concerned about maintaining the Artima look and feel, and so the existing packages weren't a good fit for me. But I would recommend anyone considering adding blogs to their site to look at them first. I looked at them first. They just didn't have what I wanted. But for most people, an existing blogs package will be the right choice.

The only problem I've had is I haven't had time to make several enhancements. That's just a scaling problem on my part. A couple of the enhancements are actually already finished and are live on other features at Artima, but I haven't yet integrated them into weblogs. But I soon will....

> And yes, I do have a selfish interest :-)...in addition to
> my
> java.net blog which is in the artima "Wireless Buzz" feed,
> I'm planning to re-work my own site sometime soon and
> want to strike a reasonable balance between off the shelf
> and roll your own blog sw when I do.

I'd check out the off-the-shelf stuff. It would likely save you a lot of work, but you have to fit into their scheme.

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