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Matt Gerrans

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Re: blogalog Re: Switching to Artima Posted: Jun 9, 2005 9:36 PM
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I think the nice thing about Artima blogs is that they are misnamed. That is, they are not really blogs in the sense that most blogs are. They seem to have found a comfortable spot between vacuous blogging and full-fledged, meticulously researched articles.

(By the way, try as I might, I just can't get used to the term "blog." It is just a little too cutesy-wootsy).

Bruce Eckel

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Re: blogalog Re: Switching to Artima Posted: Jun 10, 2005 5:53 PM
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I've learned to just grit my teeth and say it. "blog blog blog blog," after awhile it loses its meaning and you can ignore it.

Eric Gillespie

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Re: blogalog Re: Switching to Artima Posted: Jun 22, 2005 4:54 PM
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> I've learned to just grit my teeth and say it. "blog blog
> blog blog," after awhile it loses its meaning and you can
> ignore it.

Hate the name, love the concept. I think for quality of feedback, a protected wiki is definitely the way to go, however, you still have the problem of validating someone who seems good at the time, but ends up just being another *#&$% spammer. Added to this, you may have complaints from the blogger about the quality of replies if for example, they disagree strongly with the tone of the replies. Say, a dyed-in-the-wool Catholic vs. a radical Protestant. Flame-fest probably summarises this best.

Another point that I've thought of is that the dialog won't "flow" in the same manner as in a single-person blog. Maybe that's intentional, as then it's more of a discussion rather than a blog? I've come here from the IRC world, where things are a LOT more immediate, and statements are generally pithier, and there isn't quite the same room for explaining things in one large chunk. The fact that things are so short makes it feel a lot more "immediate" in feel, just like a real conversation, rather than what eventually happens in a blog or blog-discussion. The "comments" of a blog entry probably match the IRC format best.

Do you intend to have large commentary blocks, as in your current posts? Like, one person puts up say, twelve or fifteen paragraphs, then the second person puts up another ten paragraphs, and so on? Or would it flow better if the "chunks" were smaller?

Bruce, love your books. I'm starting from TIJ so as to get a proper handle on programming. Especially OO and patterns.

Regards, Eric the Viking.

Bruce Eckel

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Re: blogalog Re: Switching to Artima Posted: Jul 1, 2005 8:50 AM
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Artima doesn't regulate the size of the comments, and I assume there will be longer and shorter comments based on the complexity of the topic.

Quentin Neill

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Re: Switching to Artima Posted: Jun 29, 2006 1:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure there is a place for Bayesian filters in all of this. Maybe the incoming replies get run through the filters and marked with a spam ranking, and your responses can help teach the filters what you think is spam or not. Eventually it seems like you could trust the filters and turn over moderation completely.

So I googled "Bayesian Blog", et viola: http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=121&thread=8024

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"answering my on rhetorical question"-ly Yours,
Quentin

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