Re: A Brief Look at C++0x
Posted: Jan 8, 2006 4:55 PM
> > But I can't make the community interested in my work,
> > more than anyone else. But, Bjarne, you can, so I would
> > ask that you at least follow along on the progress
> > now and then, and, should it meet your standards, you
> > might comment on it? It that fair enough?
> A rather obvious suggestion, but still...:
Well, in one way it's a cheap sneak, but in another it's not. Bjarne's here. He's (rightly) bemoaning the (possibly unjustified) perception that the C++ standards process is a dim and impenetrable domain. People are responding. Is it too much to ask that such responses receive a modicum of active attention?
For my part, I've several things I'd like to propose for the standard - some very small and simple (one of which is all but ready to be submitted); some large and not-so-simple - but despite being a member of the Ed Panel of The C++ Source, and having mentioned such to, and requested pointers from, my fellow panel members (several of whom are on the C++ standards committees), I am still largely in the dark as to how to go about putting forward proposals. I know that I need to make some mention on std.lang.c++ and to follow the instructions at http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2005/n1810.html, but beyond that it's still pretty opaque to this little pixie. Will my submission be immediately disseminated to panel members? Will it be dropped in the bit-bucket because I cannot attend a standardization committee meeting myself? (A previous post on this thread intimated that the members are pretty much full up on extant proposals, and are therefore unlikely to be able to sponsor any new ones ...) Do I need to join the committee (assuming they'd have me .. LOL)? Do I have to stump up $800? (Having taken off all the time I have in the last couple of years for the perverse pursuit of writing books, I suspect that were I to suggest lashing out such an amount merely to give me the right to volunteer my services freely to my business manager (and better half), she might well render me incapable of furnishing her with any more sons.)
So, if, at this point in time I/we have the attention of the author of the language, it can't be too surprising that I/we are grabbing on to his wrist like hungry little children to prevent his departure. (Ok, outrageously honey-soaked analogy, I grant you, but there's truth running through it.)
(FYI: Chuck (Allison: editor of The C++ Source) has agreed to my "diarising" my experiences, such as they may be (warts and all), in making these proposals in The C++ Source, so at least others in this position may be a little better informed should they seek to make proposals in the future.)
> I suggest you
> post about it at Boost, once you have something that
> people can look at and play with, and invite comments. I
> know the boosters have expressed interest in getting an
> XML library, if you'd be interested in submitting it
> there. As many committee members are on the mailing list,
> you're sure to get their attention, this way.
I'm not interested in submitting it as a Boost library, but I'll bear in mind the possibility that useful criticism might be elicited from the Boost community.