Bill de hÓra
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Nickname: dehora
Registered: May, 2003
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Bill de hÓra is a technical architect with Propylon
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Posted: Apr 27, 2004 4:13 PM
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Tim Bray joins the party: I think somebody needs to stand up and start waving a flag that's labeled 'WS-Simplification' or 'Real Web Services' or something, that's all about building applications with what's here today and what works today: XML, HTTP, URIs, SOAP, WSDL*, and that's about it. People already are. Mark Baker, Sean McGrath, Paul Prescod, Don Box, even myself, have been pointing this out in one way or another for some time. Mark Baker in particular took a lot of stick for not being on message with WS orthodoxy. Paul Prescod was disembowelling SOAP-RPC and UDDI two years ago. It's a pity the W3C's TAG hasn't been the group taking the leadership role and waving that flag. Almost everything you need to do in this space, well someone is probably already doing it with a combination of SMTP, HTTP, FTP, RDF, URI, MIME, XML. That's the WS stack. Perhaps Atom/RSS will enter that set. * I have my doubts about WSDL/SOAP - good for demos tho'. I'm probably being unfair at this stage, but SOAP/WSDL to me is tainted with all that RPC, WXS, protocol neutrality, and by Infoset weasel wording. Some of the WSDL-driven tools are very cool, but cool does not a system make....
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