Registered: May, 2003
Re: Do IDEs spoil beginners?
Posted: Jun 18, 2003 10:31 AM
> On the other hand, I learned vi twenty years ago, as a beginner. I'm
> still using it today. I've used it to program in C, C++, Java. I've
> also used it to create the documentation in ASCII, man, TeX, HTML and
> XML formats. I'm still using it. That's reuse! Had I opted to learn
> an IDE, my choices at the time are^H^H^His Turbo PASCAL.
> My opinion is that beginners need to learn vi or Emacs, not an IDE.
> Just like they need to learn talking and running, not flying an
Heheheheh. I started programming more than 25 years ago, in BASIC on an
HP 1000 with a TTY. I didn't have an editor. I didn't
really start programming, though, until I got access to the UCSD P-System
and then Turbo Pascal 2.0. Those were IDEs, albeit primitive ones.
Since then, though, I Have Seen The Light. Like you, my tool is vi.
There's something comforting about having a standard, usable editor that
permeates everything I do. What I'm not sure about is whether it makes
more sense to start with an editor or an IDE. I remember how much fun
Turbo Pascal was and how easy it made everything. On the gripping hand,
that was in the days when Wordstar ruled the world and "everybody"
already knew how to use Wordstar -- I stuck with QEdit in the DOS world
for many years after I learned vi because that was easiest for me.