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Michael Cote

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Cote is a programmer in Austin, Texas.
"In Search of a Gentler Java" Posted: Jan 24, 2004 9:24 PM
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"Java is too hard for the masses, let alone J2EE," noted Yafim Natis, an analyst at Gartner. "Java and J2EE have significant penetration in the market for those with advanced technical skills. Vendors looking to expand their market want to bring the Java platform to the less advanced. They have to hide Java with tools that layer over Java."

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"[One of Java's advantages, however, is that] if you want to, you can use open source, you can have a free deployment environment," said Borland's Kratel. "If I'm a small shop I may not need the support levels that BEA or IBM would supply. I can take more risk, that's what Java provides. You don't have to turn to VB; you can do some very simple apps without a huge investment using Java."

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