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James Robertson

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The User Experience Posted: Oct 10, 2007 12:28 PM
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I found this in a comment to an unrelated post, so I figured I'd highlight it and address the issues. He also complained about the installer; I sent that to the relevant engineer here at Cincom:

My real frustration comes from trying to install packages from the sTore.  I wanted to install Pier, so I went to the pier website, read the installation instructions, and it says to load the pier package from the store.  So I did that, yet the installation crashed because magritte was not loaded.  So I tried to load magritte, yet the installation crashed because seaside was not loaded.  So I tried to load Seaside, but the installation crashed because of some kind of 'dllcc' problem.   
Perhaps I should continue looking into this issue, maybe I made a mistake somewhere.  Yet, when installing packages, I'm used to it either telling me what I need, in plain english so that I can get the package, or giving me the choice of installing it automatically. 

This has to do with pre-requisite settings (or, in this case, the lack of them). I tried loading Pier myself a few weeks back; like the commenter, I gave up in frustration. Now in the case of Pier, I know that the VW port is a work in progress, but - at the same time - having load problems makes it very difficult for others to pitch in. This is a problem with plenty of things in the public repository (I've released code myself that is hard to load). The bottom line is: we (Smalltalkers) need to remember that there are new people coming in all the time, and having something break completely on load is very offputting.

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