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Bill Venners

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Gosling: Microsoft's Java Threat is Financial, not Technical Posted: Oct 4, 2002 11:25 AM
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Bill Venners

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Re: Gosling: Microsoft's Java Threat is Financial, not Technical Posted: Oct 4, 2002 11:41 AM
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In this article, Gosling is quoted (or paraphrased) as saying:

>In an interview with ComputerWire, Gosling
>dismissed technical improvements in Visual
>Basic.NET and Microsoft's latest programming
>language C Sharp. Gosling believes Visual Basic
>and C Sharp lack adequate security, through their
>memory models, and necessary cross-platform
>features that have made Java popular with an
>estimated 1.5 million developers worldwide.

This sentence doesn't quite make sense, so perhaps the paraphraser got something wrong. But I have heard Gosling complain before that .NET had mediocre security. One time when I interviewed him and asked in passing about .NET, he said he thought that Microsoft didn't take security as seriously in .NET as Sun did in Java. I found this credible, because many Microsoft products, such as Outlook, seem to spring from a culture where functionality is valued higher than security.

But when I went to Microsoft and sat in on a presentation on the security aspects of .NET, my impression was that the guys who did .NET security did take it very seriously. I also was given the impression that security-minded folks at Microsoft have a hard time convincing other parts of the company of the importance of security. Nevertheless, the .NET security model seemed very different than the Java security model, but it didn't seem less comprehensive. I don't know the details of .NET security at this point, so I'm wondering, is it really less adequate than Java's security? Or is that just what Sun wants us to think?

mike

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Re: Gosling: Microsoft's Java Threat is Financial, not Technical Posted: Oct 8, 2002 10:37 PM
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When Gosling retires and writes a book on his life, then we'll know. =)

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