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dsfsdf

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java for beginners???? Posted: Jun 10, 2005 7:26 PM
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it might sound childish but having done a semesters course in java, few small java class projects i get thorougly confused when i see all these names. i have seemingly worked with netbeans, Jcreator, normal Dos 'type' java etc!!

say i want to learn java/install java. exactly which one should i install? and how...
1. for normal programs.
2. for GUIs?

what are all these names?
[Jcreator,Jbuilder,NetBeans IDE + J2SE SDK,
J2EE 1.4,J2SE v 1.4.2_08 SDK,J2SE v 1.4.2
Documentation]

Is Jcreator only a text editor?

Why so many versions? so many names?

can some body pls help me understand this!!!

if not advice me place to refer to...


Dave Morley

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Re: java for beginners???? Posted: Jun 11, 2005 1:22 PM
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> it might sound childish but having done a semesters course
> in java, few small java class projects i get thorougly
> confused when i see all these names. i have seemingly
> worked with netbeans, Jcreator, normal Dos 'type' java
> etc!!
>
> say i want to learn java/install java. exactly which one
> should i install? and how...
> 1. for normal programs.
> 2. for GUIs?
>
> what are all these names?
> [Jcreator,Jbuilder,NetBeans IDE + J2SE SDK,
> J2EE 1.4,J2SE v 1.4.2_08 SDK,J2SE v 1.4.2
> Documentation]
>
> Is Jcreator only a text editor?
>
> Why so many versions? so many names?
>
> can some body pls help me understand this!!!
>
> if not advice me place to refer to...


I'll see if I can help here. I would strongly recommend that you go to the Sun website and start there online tutorials . They go from the basics right up to advanced.

You say that you have apparently worked with Netbeans, JCreator and so on , this would confuse me!

These are Java programming IDE's in other words design environments that enable you and in many instances help you to write Java code. for example
I used JCreator a lot before I switched to Mac. This was a very easy to use environment for me. I could compile my code from there as well as run the programs. In essence it is an aid to the programmer, to speed up the work.

With regards to the J2SDK this is the Java Software development kit. This is what you need to compile and run the programs that you write.

In most cases you will need to download the sdk first and then install a IDE like netbeans or Jcreator etc....

But do yourself a favour and go to http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/index.html

Good Luck
Dave Morley

dsfsdf

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Re: java for beginners???? Posted: Jun 12, 2005 7:17 AM
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thanx for the tips:

i mostly had worked with 'javas' already installed (like in labs)! thus had no probs.
now when i want to do it myself i found its not that easy when so many terminologies around!
[add more:Java Plug-in, Java Web Start or public Java 2 Runtime Environment]

OK i'll google or 'sun' them for definitions and knowwhats...

but anyone with tips would be always welcome....

Kondwani Mkandawire

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Registered: Aug, 2004

Re: java for beginners???? Posted: Jun 13, 2005 12:23 AM
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Some suggestions:

Set up your environment first. Download j2sdk install it (configure it for your
environment via your batch files (configure the CLASSPATH and PATH environment
variables to include your Java Environment). You can Google "configuring Classpath
for Java" I'm sure tons of step by steps should show up.

After Installation try type in the console (MSDos, or Terminal Session):

javac

If you receive a response:

Usage: javac .....

Then your environment is configured and ready to go for the next step.

Just as a preference, I use text editors such as notepad, emacs, etc.
to develop my programs and the command line (DOS, Terminals to compile),
I find it more assistive to the learning and debugging process of the
program.

From there, try the sun tutorials.

One,
Spike

nes

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Registered: Jul, 2004

Re: java for beginners???? Posted: Jun 14, 2005 4:06 PM
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>
> say i want to learn java/install java. exactly which one
> should i install? and how...
> 1. for normal programs.
> 2. for GUIs?
>
> what are all these names?
> [Jcreator,Jbuilder,NetBeans IDE + J2SE SDK,
> J2EE 1.4,J2SE v 1.4.2_08 SDK,J2SE v 1.4.2
> Documentation]
>
> Is Jcreator only a text editor?
>

J2RE is just the runtime environment to run java apps.
J2SE is the standard Java compiler and runtime, you have to use your own editor for the programms and compile by hand.
J2EE some extra libraries for web and business (you probably will not need it)

Jcreator, Jbuilder, NetBeans, Eclipse are IDEs (short for Integrated Development Environment) = glorified text editors.

The easiest way to get started is to just download Netbeans IDE + J2SE bundle and install it. Look for the latest version under http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/. It has everything including the compiler already in it. The instalation programm also sets all the environment up correctly. It is pretty good has a gui editor etc, but of course everybody has its own preference. Just have lots of RAM ready (512MB) or it will run slow.

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